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The Gottesman Surname Project

 

Gottesman Lineages. The Gottesman Surname Project strives to establish the number of unique Gottesman lines via the DNA Project. Any man with the surname Gottesman can participate. Each new testee will match an existing line or establish a new one. The following thirteen lineages have been verified via DNA testing:

Haplogroup E

    Haplogroup E-PF1952 (SNP tested through the National Geographic Genographic Project).   This lineage is descended from Elia Lieb Gottesman (1824-1886) and his wife Rose Borschov of Galicia. They had 6 children: Sylvia/Slova/Siuva (m. Weidberg), Riva (m. Gottesfeld), Abba (b. 1874), Moishe/Max (1874-1962), Yankel/Yacov (m. Feldman), and an unknown daughter. It is unknown if this line matches any other Haplogroup E line because this line has not been Y-DNA (STR) tested and the other lines have not been SNP tested.

    Identified as Haplogroup E-M35 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Abraham Gottesman (born 1853 in Obava, a few miles away from Munkacs) who married Etel/Etya Salamon (born 1856 in Romania) and had at least seven children, six of whom moved to the US/Canada approximately 1898-1908. Those six were: David (b. 1880), Moshe, Zelig/Zoltan, Beryl/Bill, Israel/Isadore (b. 1885) & Pearl, who married Moshe Klein. The seventh was Leia (b. 1897), about whom we have no further data.

    Identified as Haplogroup E-M35 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Leon and Bronya Gottesman from Wyszatyce, near Przemysl, Poland. Their son Daniel Gottesman and his wife Frida/Freude Süssel Mahlberg had 15 children. Some descendants go by the surname Garson. It is not related to the other E-M35 line (it is a 14/25 match). There is a 65/67 match with someone SPN tested E-BY49056, a 64/67 match with someone SPN tested E-BY10773, and a 63/67 match with someone SPN tested E-BY11082.

    Identified as Haplogroup E-M35 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Salomon/Simon(?) Gottesmann (17??-1827) of Munkacs and his wife Barbara/Babett Friedmann/Friemann. Their son Adolph (Philipp Johann) Gottesmann (1813-1907) and his wife Marie-Antoinette D`Albon had a son Raoul/Rezso Gottesmann (1849-1905), who married Antonia Levy-Martonflavy. Their son Ervin Gottesman (1890-1963), who changed his name to Ervin Baktay, is known for popularizing Indian culture in Hungary. See terebess.hu. Their daughter Marie Antoinette Gottesman married Umrao Singh Sher-Gil and their daughter was reknown artist Amrita Sher-Gil. Descendents have the surnames Baktay and de Jasay. It is not related to the Garson E-M35 line (it is a 7/12 match). It may be related to the other E-M35 line (it is a 10/12 match) but further testing would be needed to know for certain.

Haplogroup G

    Predicted as Haplogroup G2b M3155 but not SNP tested.  
    awaiting description

Haplogroup J1

    Identified as Haplogroup J1 (J-M267) but not SNP tested.   This Cohanim lineage is descended from Betzalel Gottesman (1779-18??), father of Dovid Shmuel/David Samuel Gottesman (~1825-1867). Dovid Shmuel was married to Chaya Rivka or Helen Spiegel (perhaps both). He had six children born in Munkacs/Mukacheve. It is one branch of this family that lends its name to several libraries, some Yeshiva University buildings, and Central National-Gottesman.

    Identified as Haplogroup J1 (J-M267) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from a Gottesmann family that changed the name to Beron, based on the mother's maiden name. It is probably not related to the Yeshiva University J1 line (it is a 30/37 match).

    Identified as Haplogroup J1 (recommended for the J1a-L818 panel) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Lazar and Pessel Gottesman. Children were born in Berehovo, Czechoslovakia (now Berehove, Ukraine) or Bereg Kövest, Czechoslovakia (now Kamyanske, Ukraine). It is not related to the other J1 lines (it is a 9/18 match and a 10/18 match).

Haplogroup J2

    Identified as Haplogroup J2 (J-M172) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Max Gottesman and his wife Henrietta Fensterstock. This family is traced to Munkacs/Mukacheve.

    Predicted as Haplogroup J2a1 Z467> L210 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Yankiel/Yaacov Gottesman (1809-1869) via his son Moshe Gottesman (1862-1939), who married Yetta Sosya Weitzman. This family is traced to Husiatyn/Gusiatyn, Ukraine and Przemysl, Poland. It is not related to the other J2 line (it is a 24/43 match).

Haplogroup Q

    Identified as Haplogroup Q1b (Q-M242). Will be SNP tested in 2018.   This lineage is descended from Bernard Israel-Bear Gottesman (1850-1923), who had 8 children. His son David Gottesman (born 1877/8, married to Channa Blobstein) had children born in the 1910's in Kivyatch, Czechoslovakia, which is now in Ukraine. David had a younger brother and sister who were twins named Shie and Esther. David entered the United States via Ellis Island in 1910; he is listed as being from Munkacs/Mukacheve and going to stay with his brother-in-law Max Nalpod? in New York. David lived in Chicago for a short period of time. It is believed that David and Channa returned to Czechoslovakia. Some descendents go by the surnames Blobstein and Stein.

    This Q lineage is also descended from Shmuel Zenvil Gottesman (born ~1846). His place of birth is unknown but records for this family are found in JRI-Poland in Kolomyya and his family is tied to Tyśmienica, Chlebiczyn/Chlebyszyn, Lackie Szlacheckie, Tłumacz, Delatin, Dolina, Perehińske, and Czeremchów, all of which were formerly in Galicia and are presently in the Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast (province) in western Ukraine.

    These two families did not know they were descended from the same Gottesman man until they matched with DNA testing.

Haplogroup R

    SNP confirmed Haplogroup R1b-L23.   This lineage is descended from Avraham Tuvia Gottesman, who was a cattle broker. His place of birth is unknown. He last lived in Volochisk, Ukraine with his wife Malka Cohen (born 1882/3) and their three children (Gitel/Gertie, Yacov Yosef, and Moshe/Murray Yisroel). Avraham was murdered in Volochisk in 1919 in a pogrom. In 1921, his wife and children emigrated to the United States via Ellis Island, which lists their residence as Woloczysk, Poland.

    Identified as Haplogroup R1b (R-M269) but not SNP tested.  
    awaiting description
    It is not related to the other J2 line (it is a 18/37 match).

Unknown Haplogroup

    To be tested. Kit not yet purchased.   This lineage is descended from the father of Elter Gottesman and Yosef/Jacob Gottesman (18??-1939), who lived in Bukovinka, Czechoslovakia. Elter had a son named Wolfbaer Gottesman (~1855-1???). Yosef/Jacob had 5 children: Betzalel, Fremet, Mendel, Michael, and Wolf Gottesman.

    To be tested. Kit not yet purchased.   This lineage is descended from Gad Gottesman (born circa 1780). His son Shmuel Ber Gottesman (1825-1912) was born in Rackovitz, Hungary. According to some, Gad's last name was Popper or Proper, and he adopted his wife's last name, Gottesman.

    I am looking to contact Peggy Quinn, who purchased a DNA test through this project that was never returned to the lab. Please get in touch.


Traditional Research. Through traditional genealogical research, Gottesman descendants have found several origins for Gottesman families:

    Galicia.   Galicia (or Galizien, as it is called in German) is the name given to the portion of Poland which was occupied by the Austro-Hungarian Empire between 1772-1918. The Eastern portion ceded to the Ukraine after World War II. There are several Gottesman families that originated in Galicia but thus far we have been unable to locate the ways in which these families are connected. Some researchers believe all Gottesman families from Galicia are related. Lineages have been traced to Lodz, Opoczno, Strykow, Jaroslaw and Rzeszow, Poland.

    Ukraine.   Gottesman lineages have been traced to: Cheremkhov (in the Stanislav oblast), Peremyshlyany, Vinogradov, Koropets, Buchach, Volochisk, Uzhgorod, Irshava, Rogatin, Zadnie, Kolochava, Mukacheve*, Borislav, Lvov, Buchach, Chernovtsy, Beregovo, Skole, Ozeryany, Chortkov, Zarachanko, Gusyatin, Gorodenka and Sniatyn.

    Hungary.   Gottesman lineages have been traced to Munkacz*, Tarpa, and Budapest.

    Austria.   One lineage has been traced to Ulaskowce, Austria. Another family emigrated from Ladzkie, Austria.

    Slovakia.   There is a Gottesman family that traces its origins to Mukachevo* in Slovakia.

    Other.   Gottesman lineages are known to have emigrated from Galicia to Italy, Israel, the United States, and Bucuresti, Romania. Other Gottesman's emigrated from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Germany, and Switzerland.

    Variations.   Variations on the surname spelling have been traced to Germany and other European locations. There is a separate DNA Surname Project for the Goetzman/Götzmann family of German origin, available at: goetzmans.com

    * Please note that many of these locations are the same due to shifting borders. For example, Mukacheve, Ukraine, Munkach, Hungary, and Mukachevo, Slovakia, are all the same locale. It was also in Czechoslovakia and Russia. Additional names include:

    • Ukrainian: Мукачеве (Mukacheve)
    • Hungarian: Munkács
    • Romanian: Muncaci or Munceag
    • Russian: Мукачево (Mukachevo)
    • Rusyn: Мукачів (Mukachiv)
    • Slovak and Czech: Mukačevo
    • German: Munkatsch
    • Yiddish: Munkacz or Minkatsh

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