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The Gottesman Surname Project

 

Gottesman Lineages. The Gottesman Surname Project strives to establish the number of unique Gottesman lines via the DNA Project. Any man with the surname Gottesman can participate. Each new testee will match an existing line or establish a new one. The following fifteen lineages have been verified via DNA testing:

Haplogroup E                                             (Order a Gottesman test kit)

    Haplogroup E-PF1952 (SNP tested through the National Geographic Genographic Project).   This lineage is descended from Elia Lieb Gottesman (1824-1886) and his wife Rose Borschov of Galicia. They had 6 children: Sylvia/Slova/Siuva (m. Weidberg), Riva (m. Gottesfeld), Abba (b. 1874), Moishe/Max (1874-1962), Yankel/Yacov (m. Feldman), and an unknown daughter. It is unknown if this line matches any other Haplogroup E line because this line has not been Y-DNA (STR) tested and the other lines have not been SNP tested.

    Identified as Haplogroup E-M35 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Abraham Gottesman (born 1853 in Obava, a few miles away from Mukachevo*) who married Etel/Etya Salamon (born 1856 in Romania) and had at least seven children, six of whom moved to the US/Canada approximately 1898-1908. Those six were: David (b. 1880), Moshe, Zelig/Zoltan, Beryl/Bill, Israel/Isadore (b. 1885) & Pearl, who married Moshe Klein. The seventh was Leia (b. 1897), about whom we have no further data. This lineage was actively researched by the wonderful Adrienne C. Mendelson for over 20 years.

    Identified as Haplogroup E-M35 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Leon and Bronya Gottesman from Wyszatyce, near Przemysl, Poland. Their son Daniel Gottesman and his wife Frida/Freude Süssel Mahlberg had 15 children. Some descendants go by the surname Garson. This family is not related to the other E-M35 line (it is a 14/25 match). There is a 65/67 match with someone SPN tested E-BY49056, a 64/67 match with someone SPN tested E-BY10773, and a 63/67 match with someone SPN tested E-BY11082.

    Identified as Haplogroup E-M35 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Salomon/Simon(?) Gottesmann (17??-1827) of Mukachevo* and his wife Barbara/Babett Friedmann/Friemann. Their son Adolph (Philipp Johann) Gottesmann (1813-1907) and his wife Marie-Antoinette D`Albon had a son Raoul/Rezso Gottesmann (1849-1905), who married Antonia Levy-Martonflavy. Their son Ervin Gottesman (1890-1963), who changed his name to Ervin Baktay, is known for popularizing Indian culture in Hungary. See terebess.hu. Their daughter Marie Antoinette Gottesman married Umrao Singh Sher-Gil and their daughter was reknown artist Amrita Sher-Gil. Descendents have the surnames Baktay and de Jasay. This family is not related to the Garson E-M35 line (it is a 7/12 match). This family is probably not related to the other E-M35 line (it is a 10/12 match) but further testing would be needed to know for certain.

Haplogroup G                                             (Order a Gottesman test kit)

    Identified as Haplogroup G-M201 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Nathan Gottesman and Bertha Roller, parents of Sarah Gottesman, who married Itzhak Kimmel, and Louis Gottesman (born 1854), who married Sarah Friesch (born 1853). This family is from Ivano-Frankivsk (Stanislawow), formerly in Galicia and presently in Western Ukraine.

    Predicted as Haplogroup G2b M3155 but not SNP tested.  
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    This family is not related to the other G line (it is a 25/32 match).

Haplogroup J1                                             (Order a Gottesman test kit)

    Identified as Haplogroup J1 (J-M267) but not SNP tested.   This Cohanim lineage is descended from Betzalel Gottesman (1779-18??), father of Dovid Shmuel/David Samuel Gottesman (~1825-1867). Dovid Shmuel was married to Chaya Rivka or Helen Spiegel (perhaps both). He had six children born in Mukachevo*. It is one branch of this family that lends its name to several libraries, some Yeshiva University buildings, and Central National-Gottesman.

    Identified as Haplogroup J1 (J-M267) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from a Gottesmann family that changed the name to Beron, based on the mother's maiden name. This family is not related to the Yeshiva University J1 line (it is a 30/37 match).

    Identified as Haplogroup J1 (recommended for the J1a-L818 panel) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Lazar and Pessel Gottesman. Children were born in Berehovo, Czechoslovakia (now Berehove, Ukraine) or Bereg Kövest, Czechoslovakia (now Kamyanske, Ukraine). This family is not related to the other J1 lines (it is a 9/18 match and a 10/18 match).

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    Identified as Haplogroup J1 (J-M267) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Yechiel/Yochil Mechel/Mechil/Michili Gottesman (born ~1880), who lived in Hungary/Romania. This line was first tested in Aug 2020, and had a 36/37 match in May 2023.

Haplogroup J2                                             (Order a Gottesman test kit)

    Identified as Haplogroup J2 (J-M172) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Max Gottesman (born 07 Mar 1894) and his wife Henrietta Fensterstock. Max's father was Scholem (Solomon) Gottesmann, born 1851, who married Henrietta (Jette) Berkowitz. In 1910 Max was living with his brothers Ralph and Morris J Gottesman, and Morris' wife Jeanette. This family is traced to Mukachevo*.

    Predicted as Haplogroup J2a1 Z467> L210 but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Yankiel/Yaacov Gottesman (1809-1869) via his son Moshe Gottesman (1862-1939), who married Yetta Sosya Weitzman. This family is traced to Husiatyn/Gusiatyn, Ukraine and Przemysl, Poland. This family is not related to the other J2 line (it is a 24/43 match).

Haplogroup Q                                             (Order a Gottesman test kit)

    Identified as Haplogroup Q (Q-M242). Planned to be SNP tested in 2020.   This lineage is descended from Bernard Israel-Bear Gottesman (1850-1923), who had 8 children. His son David Gottesman (born 1877/8, married to Channa Blobstein) had children born in the 1910's in Kivyatch, Czechoslovakia, which is now in Ukraine. David had a younger brother and sister who were twins named Shie and Esther. David entered the United States via Ellis Island in 1910; he is listed as being from Mukachevo* and going to stay with his brother-in-law Max Nalpod? in New York. David lived in Chicago for a short period of time. It is believed that David and Channa returned to Czechoslovakia. Some descendents go by the surnames Blobstein and Stein.

    This Q lineage is also descended from Shmuel Zenvil Gottesman (born ~1846). His place of birth is unknown but records for this family are found in JRI-Poland in Kolomyya and his family is tied to Tyśmienica, Chlebiczyn/Chlebyszyn, Lackie Szlacheckie, Tłumacz, Delatin, Dolina, Perehińske, and Czeremchów, all of which were formerly in Galicia and are presently in the Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast (province) in western Ukraine.

    These two families did not know they were descended from the same Gottesman man until they matched with DNA testing.

    Identified as Haplogroup Q (Q-M242) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is descended from Max Gottesman (born 1885 in Mukachevo*). His father was either Wolbaer or Yisroel Baer Moshe Gottesman (1862-1939), and his mother was Yetta Sosya Weitzman. The testee is also descended from Fanny Weiss Gottesman on his maternal side. This family is not related to the other Q line (it is a 26/37 match).

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    Identified as Haplogroup Q (Q-M242) but not SNP tested.   This lineage is the descendent of Wolf Gottesman (born 17??) from Poland Galicia. Wolf had a son Mendel (1812-1867) who lived in Bukovinka #38 next to Munkach; he married Szure Gottesman (I believe her maiden name was Gottesman as well). They had 4 children:
    1. Avraham (born 1840), married in 1868 to Feiga Mermelstein, had a son Wolf 1882.
    2. Abish Yitzchok (1853-1937) married Chaya Devora Jakob (1865-1915), their children were Chaim Shlome (1894-1983), Bluma "Betti" (1896-1968), Avrum Lazer (1898-1945 Holocaust) [Avrum Lazer had a son Rabbi Leibish (1928-2016) star pupil and disciple of Rabbi Michoel Ber Weismandel - Nitra/NY, Etel (born 1890), and Wolf (born 1902)
    3. Zev Dov/Wolf Ber (born 1859), married to Chaya Ruchel Meltzer, their children were Feiga (born 1883), Mendel (born 1886), Betzalel (born 1890), Kalmen (born 1893), and Izick Leib (born 1895).
    4. Yosef (1861-1944 Holocaust), married Bluma Liberman, their children were Mendel (born 1892), Betzalel (born 1895), and Shlomie (Haifa Israel).
    This Lineage is a 34/37 match to the one immediately above. Tested May 2023.

Haplogroup Q2a                                             (Order a Gottesman test kit)

    Haplogroup Q-YP1035 tested by 23andMe. YP1035 = Q2a1a1a1a2a2. This lineage is descended from Gad Gottesman (born circa 1780). His son Shmuel Ber Gottesman (1825-1912) was born in Rackovitz, Hungary (now Velikiy Rakovets, Ukraine in the Irshava Raion in the Zakarpattia Oblast). According to the family, Gad's last name was Poper, Popper, or Proper, and he adopted his wife's last name, Gottesman. A Y-DNA test is required to determine if this lineage matches one of the other Haplogroup Q lineages.

Haplogroup R                                             (Order a Gottesman test kit)

    SNP confirmed Haplogroup R1b-L23.   This lineage is descended from Avraham Tuvia Gottesman, who was a cattle broker. His place of birth is unknown. He last lived in Volochisk, Ukraine with his wife Malka Cohen (born 1882/3) and their three children (Gitel/Gertie, Yacov Yosef, and Moshe/Murray Yisroel). Avraham was murdered in Volochisk in 1919 in a pogrom. In 1921, his wife and children emigrated to the United States via Ellis Island, which lists their residence as Woloczysk, Poland.

    Identified as Haplogroup R1b (R-M269) but not SNP tested.   The earliest known ancestor was either Boruch Gottesman or Chaim Asher Gottesman, whose son Yitschack Gottesman married Sheinfeld. The family is from Opoczno, Poland. This family is not related to the other R line (it is a 18/37 match).

Unknown Haplogroup                                     (Order a Gottesman test kit)

    Being tested. Kit ordered June 2023.   This lineage is descended from Abraham Gottesman (died before 1877), through his son Yakov Aron (~1850-1929).

    To be tested. Kit not yet purchased.   This lineage is descended from Tzadok/Zudik Gottesman and Golde Leia Weiss (she is buried in the Jewish Cemetery in Prešov, Slovakia) from Mukachevo*. Their son Ignatz/Ignac Gottesman (1864-1954) had 10 children: Albert Abram "Al/Abe" Gottesman (1898-1965), Anna/Annie Gottesman (1891-1991), Catherine Gottesman (1906-1990), Helen Gottesman (1892-2000), Henry Gottesman (1886-1964), Ida Gottesman (1903-1994), Louis Gottesman (1894-1957), Rachel "Ray" Gottesman (1888-1977), Ruth Gottesman (1901-1990), and Susan Gottesman (1896-1965).

    To be tested. Kit not yet purchased.   This lineage is descended from the father of Elter Gottesman and Yosef/Jacob Gottesman (18??-1939), who lived in Bukovinka, Czechoslovakia. Elter had a son named Wolfbaer Gottesman (~1855-1???). Yosef/Jacob had 5 children: Betzalel, Fremet, Mendel, Michael, and Wolf Gottesman. This lineage is likely Haplogroup Q (Q-M242).

    I am looking to contact Peggy Quinn, who purchased a DNA test through this project that was never returned to the lab. Please get in touch.

    I am seeking to contact Michael Samuel Gottesman, JewishGen Family Finder researcher # 165315. Your email no longer works. Please get in touch.


Traditional Research. Through traditional genealogical research, Gottesman descendants have found several origins for Gottesman families:

    Galicia.   Galicia (or Galizien, as it is called in German) is the name given to the portion of Poland which was occupied by the Austro-Hungarian Empire between 1772-1918. The Eastern portion ceded to the Ukraine after World War II. There are several Gottesman families that originated in Galicia but thus far we have been unable to locate the ways in which these families are connected. Some researchers believe all Gottesman families from Galicia are related. Lineages have been traced to Lodz, Opoczno, Strykow, Jaroslaw and Rzeszow, Poland.

    Ukraine.   Gottesman lineages have been traced to: Cheremkhov (in the Stanislav oblast), Peremyshlyany, Vinogradov, Koropets, Buchach, Volochisk, Uzhgorod, Irshava, Rogatin, Zadnie, Kolochava, Mukachevo*, Borislav, Lvov, Buchach, Chernovtsy, Beregovo, Skole, Ozeryany, Chortkov, Zarachanko, Gusyatin, Gorodenka and Sniatyn.

    Hungary.   Gottesman lineages have been traced to Mukachevo*, Tarpa, and Budapest.

    Austria.   One lineage has been traced to Ulaskowce, Austria. Another family emigrated from Ladzkie, Austria.

    Slovakia.   There are Gottesman families that trace their origins to Mukachevo* in Slovakia.

    Other.   Gottesman lineages are known to have emigrated from Galicia to Italy, Israel, the United States, and Bucuresti, Romania. Other Gottesman's emigrated from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Germany, and Switzerland.

    Variations.   Variations on the surname spelling have been traced to Germany and other European locations. There is a separate DNA Surname Project for the Goetzman/Götzmann family of German origin, available at: goetzmans.com

    * Please note that many of these locations are the same due to shifting borders. For example, Mukacheve, Ukraine, Munkach, Hungary, and Mukachevo, Slovakia, are all the same locale. It was also in Czechoslovakia and Russia. Additional names include:

    • Ukrainian: Мукачеве (Mukacheve)
    • Hungarian: Munkács (Munkacs)
    • Romanian: Muncaci or Munceag
    • Russian: Мукачево (Mukachevo)
    • Rusyn: Мукачів (Mukachiv)
    • Slovak and Czech: Mukačevo
    • German: Munkatsch
    • Yiddish: Munkacz or Minkatsh

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